Wayne's Wonderful World of Wellness
or
Busting for Dollars
When Wayne McLean (WM) asked Rebecca Powley (RP) if she had "scientific proof" that the product would do what she said it would do. (By the way the list was very long), here is how most of it went:
RP - "They did research at the Bradford Institute in Washington"
She said, "..that they studied 108 women for 2 years and they came up
with an 85% success rate regarding various things, including firmness,
fullness, menstrual cramping, uhmmmm...., things like that. Plus
obviously I have 700 "clients" in Ontario alone and a lot of women do
say during the first month or two months that they do get less period
cramping." (She obviously had the wrong web page or propaganda given to
her by the Bradford Institute, and she believed it)
WM - (Reading the label or pamphlet) - "Herbal Bust Plus it says here
'It's so effective, it is fast becoming THE natural alternative to
invasive expensive and dangerous implant surgery."
What proof do you offer for that?
RP - "Well, like I told you, there has been studies done and why
obviously if it doesn't work for you, you will get your money back. So
we wouldn't be in business if everyone was finding it didn't do
anything.
WM - "How about side effects?" - (It sounded so scripted it wasn't funny)
RP - "THERE ARE NO SIDE EFFECTS BECAUSE IT'S A NATURAL.
Unless you're allergic to one of the herbs. I've never had that happen,
I'm SURE.
Someone could be allergic to peanuts, so someone could be allergic to
Damiana....WHO KNOWS?" (Well it sure ain't Rebecca, is it? Damiana can be quite toxic to the liver, it can cause hallucinations, and urethral irritation. A search for any aphrodesiac type effects, claimed by Rebecca, are totally false and there are many sources that have traced it down to a hoax.)
"But, generally, if you're at all concerned take the ingredients to your
doctor. Some doctors are becoming more receptive to herbal products."
(Yeah, right Rebecca and then there are some who ARE NOT, like me and about 60,000 others in Canada)
(She obviously had to say that because there are plenty of side effects,
and if those had been mentioned, no one would buy the stuff. The
government of Canada ignores all claims for herbal products, because
they are a food product. The food product regulators say that they won't
get involved, the stuff is an herbal product. The new Office of Natural
Health Products is so stacked with herbal industry interests that we
wonder what will be burning in their department barbeques on the banks of the
Rideau Canal. It certainly doesn't seem that the government of Canada is
at all interested in spending more than $7 million to police the herbal
scam artists, and there are many. The radio scam artists have been
coming out the woodwork for the last 3 years, and so it goes.)
<----Break ---->
WM - "This is Rebecca Powley and she is touring all of the radio talk
shows, as a matter of fact, to talk about Bust Plus, and the idea of course
with this natural herbal formula, the breast size will increase and
there are some other benefits according to what Rebecca is telling us.
We will give away two of these at random.
But, I think there are other issues here. I don't mean serious, serious
issues, unless you can think of some. But there are other issues here
that I find rather intriguing." (They then bantered awhile on comparing
the penile implant and penis envy to the breast enlargement
preoccupation).
PHONE CALLS -
Sarah - "How big can you get? How long to you take it?"
RP - "3-9 months depending how big you want to become, usually one cup
size. It is permanent breast tissue. You may have to take it again." ( I
wonder what the hell she imagined the tissue would be, perhaps a bit off
the old soft shoe, as she side-stepped the basic issues of the truth?)
WM - (Wayne reminded her about taking it to a doctor if someone had
questions)
Sarah - "Is there any change in the fat level in your body?"
RP - "No there is not. Actually how it works, it naturally stimulates
hormone levels, and it's a combination of estrogen, progesterone, and
prostaglandins, and it brings out...it stimulates that particular level
and effects mammary size and nowhere else." (How does she know all
this? It must be sort of like Miracle Grow making one part of a sweet
potato bigger than another, WOW that is amazing, isn't it)
Diane - "Do you use the product?"
RP - "Yes, I do"
Diane - "How long have you been using it?"
RP - "I finished using it now, but I was on it for 9 months and I did go
up a cup size."
Diane - "Did you notice a difference in your Life?"
RP - "In my life?"
Diane - "Yes. Is it important to you? I think it is to most women""
RP - "You know what, it was really important to me" - (giggle giggle
giggle)
Diane - "It is to me, too. I'm glad to hear about this product."
WM - "What is the reason for that?"
Diane - "You look more sensual", like Pamela Lee Anderson... (the banter
then deteriorated into a discussion of Bay Watch and all those bouncing
boobies, I guess.)
RP - "I cost between $200 to $600 but we have web specials..."
Fred from Guelph - (WM didn't want to get into it at all, because Fred wanted to make a social comment about the preoccupation on the female's breast and the attachment to other sexual issues. )
They had a break and then babbled about what breasts are for.
Tim - Called about his wife who had nursed three kids. He said that her
breasts looked like "fried eggs". (If I was that guy's wife, I think I
would hit him over the head with the frying pan, or stick his head on
the stove and see if he likes it)
--->Break<---
WM - "We have a product that's natural, herbal and it claims that it
will increase your bust size. You're promising it will or your money
back. Health Canada has not approved it. It's a natural herbal product." (That is a direct quote, and indicates to me that WM may be involved in the direct promotion of the product on his show. What do you think he meant?)
RP - "They pretty well bypass herbal products." (She was responding to WM's statement that Health Canada has not approved it. Well I think she should have, too, don't you)
WM - "Also, if anyone orders this you advise them to take it to their
doctor, so that he or she can examine it." (Hey Wayne, don't you know that medical doctors don't know anything about herbs? What kind of doctor would
you advise the people you and your guest convince to buy the stuff, go to? A witch
doctor? This area of the world needs 50 doctors or more just to keep our
heads above water. Why don't you tell them to visit Dr. Percival in New
Hamburg. He has so much to offer the CKGL listeners. Perhaps you should
have had him on as a guest to help Rebecca out a bit, eh?)
RP - "If you're concerned....I mean it's herbal....but I swear by
echinacea." (Well Rebecca that's the right thing to do, because
echinacea doesn't help colds, it makes them worse. That was in a major double blind study done at Bastyr University in Washington State. It's where the main authors of a 1680 Textbook of Natural Medicine are from. I know I have it on my desk at home.)
WM - "There's much wider significance here that has to deal with bust
size and how important that is to a woman. It's important to some woman.
Why is that Rebecca?"
RP - "Just because. To make them feel more confident, sexier...Just
that, and it's important to know that you do not necessarily have to get
implants now, if you want bigger busts." (So Rebecca, what about all those women who had mastectomies because of cancer? What do you think they might do with your products?)
-- They then went into a discussion about the alleged dangers and sordid
history of breast implants. All those serious side effects and injuries.
Oh my. I guess they didn't read Marcia Angell's wonderfully educational
book called Science on Trial which described the windfall profits that
were made by lawyers. Here is a quote from the book jacket: "Shockingly,
rigorous scientific studies of breast implants have now shown that there
is no significant link between breast implants and disease"
-- Now, what if all those 9 herbs that Rebecca Powley want to feed your
wife cause cancer cells to enlarge at the same rate as the normal breast
cells. Will we be seeing the maker of her herbal supplement dragged into
court in another 10 years? Oh no that's not possible, herbal mixtures
are not regulated. Toy bunny rabbits and stuffed dolls are regulated,
but not herbs in this country. Is your TV set out of focus folks?
---->Break<---- another plug
WM - "Are there woman who resent, get mad at you for doing this?"
RP - "I've had a few, uhmmmmm, on call-in show, but not very many."
WM - "What was their problem?"
RP - "Uhm, they were saying 'look I have small breasts and I'm happy
with them'. And my answer to that is good for you, that's great. But,
for women that aren't happy, there's an alternative to implants."
Connie in Cambridge - She called because she had two sisters "who had it
all". "I was so happy to hear that you had something that could possibly
give me at least a bust size bigger. And I was thrilled. I don't want to
do any operations, or nothing foolish like that. I'm not into big risks
like that. But, I was wondering if there was anything in this that would
create hair loss?"
RP - "NO, hair loss, NO NO. I do have women who say that their hair and
nails are stronger,...it balances your hormones. Sometimes you hear
about pregnant women that have really great skin hair and nails. I think
it must have something to do with the balancing of the hormones, in
terms of that." (Where the hell did Rebecca study endocrinology,
physiology, dermatology, and obstetrics, from the back of a cereal box
on aisle three at the health food store?)
Connie in Cambridge - "I know my husband would be pleased to see me a
size larger than what I am."
WM - "Has he said that to you, Connie?"
Connie in Cambridge - "Oh, yes. I got quite large in my first pregnancy.
I was thrilled because I went up to a "C" size...."
-- They then discussed what happens to women after they deliver babies
and stop breast feeding. Rebecca has never been pregnant, and Wayne
doesn't have kids. Boy do we have experts here.
Joanne in Waterloo - discussed being a 40D, the other end of the
spectrum. She said that having big breasts is a problem to her. It's
also a problem with her daughter.
RP - "I'm not suggesting that I would like to be a "D". .... I guess
people would definitely notice that.
There's definitely two sides to the story."
WM and RP discussed being a "D". (Am I stupid or something, what is a
"D"?
RP said she "would never want to be a "D". I guess it's o.k. to be a "B"
or a "C" though. (What size are the batteries that run the brains of
people who take Bust Plus?)
The discussion continued between them with RP saying that there are men
out here who really love flat chested women. "It takes all kinds".
(Yeah, it takes all kinds of suckers to buy into the magic formula in
little pills or extracts that will do nothing more then empty their
pockets of hope)
Dave on cell phone - he wanted to know if the stuff would increase the
size of anything else in the body?
As an example the hips or thighs?"
RP - "No it does not, only the mammaries are effected.
Jake from Guelph - "I was just a little bit confused about some of the
things that you've been talking about with the drug."
RP - "It's not a drug actually. (This is really absurd. Everything she said, and some of it I intentionally left off, has to do with a physiological effect on the body. She claims that the product permanently changes mammary tissue. What that means is that it influences the body, in a drug like manner to create changes that effect the structure and function of the body. Why the hell do herbal products that do that not classified as drugs? If it has no effect, it is a food. Herbs are DRUGS if they do what she says that they do.)
Jake from Guelph - "O.K. it's an herb. I wasn't quite clear how the
hormones are actually manipulated."
RP - "What it does, the best way to explain it, uhmmm, that when a women
is starting to go through puberty a pituitary gland sends out a signal
to her GS levels, a combination of her estrogen, prostaglandin and human
growth factor and they start to naturally rise. And this happens over a
period of 15 months, she starts to produce breast tissue, and then as
she comes out of adolescence the level drops down and she stops
producing breast tissue. What these herbs to is to stimulate those
levels and they start to rise again." (So Rebecca, we are back to square one. Where is the evidence. Show me your money, honey, please. How do the herbs in your products increase and balance the hormones? You can't do that, can you?)
Jake from Guelph - "From what I understand usually hormones change in
the body, especially estrogen, prolactin, and progesterone. They're
going to cause an increase in fat deposition in the breast and possibly
an increase in connective tissue. The mammary cells themselves don't
grow. They might a little bit, but not much. The only time that they
grow is if they are dilated with milk."
WM - "Are you an M.D., Jake?" (No Wayne, he's not a M.D. You should have had one on your show. But we highly suspect that there is a specific reason why you didn't have one on the show that day.)
Jake from Guelph - "No I'm not. But I'm a little bit confused on that,
and I think that maybe part of the problem is that the mechanism, about
how these things are really explained, it doesn't make sense to me." It
also doesn't make sense that these things don't have side effects if you
are manipulating hormone levels." (Geeze Louise, I've think he's got it!!!)
RP - "Well, what the side effects are, is less menstrual cramps. When
people hear the word side effects they think BAD THINGS opposed to GOOD.
It all has to do with balancing hormones." (Does she sound like a broken
record. I bet those company tapes are played under her pillow every
night, so she won't ever make a mistake. God forbid, GOOD things are
turned to BAD.)
Jake from Guelph - "That's o.k., that's fine. I expected that you might
get increasing mammary tissue, you'd also get a little secretion out of
the nipple, which does happen sometimes when women are on their period.
But, I'm a little bit surprised by that. I'm not surprised that the
government hasn't yet regulated these things because of lack of real
testing and solid knowledge behind them."(And guess what Jake, so are we.)
WM - "These are all herbal products you mean?"
Jake from Guelph - "Right"
WM - "Because there's a department that has just been set up, I was
reading about it the other week and this department of the government is
going to regulate all herbal products. It's just in the works now."
--->plugged their web site http://www.imustimust.com 888-552-BUST <----
Tracy from Kitchener - "I was wondering, you said the dosage was 500 mg.
you would take daily. What would happen if you were so eager to increase
your size quickly that you went and took a double dose? If you took too
much?"
RP - "If you increased it, it would help a bit. I mean it's not like you
took double now, it's gonna happen twice as fast."
Tracy from Kitchener - "Right, o.k."
Alisha in Kitchener - "Can you take any other vitamins, is there any
other vitamins you should stay away from?"
RP - "No that's fine...Other herbal products, you can take vitamins,
what have you." (What a complete and total fabrication of the real world. Almost all herbs react with each other, and they react with drugs. If she
thinks that the 9 herbs that are in product like hers are inert, she's
110% wrong, and it's entirely possible that one or more patients may some day pay the price for their mistaken belief that the herbs are safe to take.)
Alisha from Kitchener - "O.K., so there is nothing that could interact
with it?"
RP - "NO, NO. The only thing that you shouldn't be doing while you are
on this product is drinking caffeinated drinks. Caffeine really is very
toxic and it inhibits the effectiveness of the herbs. So, just cut out
all caffeine products, you will get much better results." (How does she
come up with those statements? Does she just pull them out of thin air.
The foundation of her products' claims is so thin anyway, I guess poof
there it goes, up up and away with the Coke bubbles.)
--->They gave Alisha a whole bottle of Bust Plus <----
Dave from car phone - He asked about menopause symptoms for older women.
RP - "It's very helpful for women that are going through menopause. It
helps with hot flashes, mood swings. All the herbs do different things."
WM - "Is there some way of amassing scientific evidence in this area?"
RP - "Well, it's back to the Bradford research institute, and what they
did is took a 108 women of different age groups and the definitely put
menopausal problems into it.
Dave from car phone - "What about post menopause, some people get
hormone therapy to help them? Is it like that, can it help that?"
RP - "I have some women who are on hormone replacement therapy and they
go on this product and a few of them have actually gone off their
hormone replacement therapy and stayed on the Bust Plus, just because
they wanted to do it in a natural way."
---> another plug for the web site <-----
WM - "What is the outreach here of this? I mean you are a spokeswoman
for this product in this part of the country. How is this doing around
the world? Is the distribution network that large?"
RP - "It's in the States, Canada, South Africa, Australia. It's just
started out in Czechoslovakia and France. So, it's getting out there,
yes."
WM - "And somebody mentioned another product earlier, I don't recall the
name of it."
RP - "Herbal GroBust. It's more expensive and this is a better product, they've
added extract of Red Rasberry to help with keeping the skin clear, and
they've added Senna which helps the bloating around the time of the
period. They've improved the product, and also this comes in liquid form
as well, which assimilates into the body quicker, you get better
results." (Duh!!! If you have to take something for 9 months, what the
hell is the hurry. What exactly is quicker? Does your money burn a hole
in your pocket faster, just waiting to take a swig on the Herbal GroBust, while
your flat chested sister-in-law is just lumbering away on the Bust Plus?
What about the fact that Red Rasberry has absolutely no effect on the
skin, but can induce labour. It also interacts with some oral drugs that
diabetics take. Senna doesn't do anything for bloating but can cause
major diarrhea, resulting in dehydration, cause severe cramps, and skin
rashes. Addiction or Senna abuse can result in clubbing of the fingers,
hypokalemia (low potassium), melanosis coli, tetany, and death. Somehow,
I don't see any breast enhancement properties by the addition of those
two wonderful herbs, do you?)
WM - "This is always the question when we have Shan Bricker on here.
He's a holistic practitioner from here, and we talk about herbal
medicines and natural health, and the whole enchilada. Why do you
suppose that so many M.D.s and the government people in Health Canada,
although they're changing now because of the escalating sales of natural
products in places like Shoppers?"
--->the rest as they say is history<--- There is no "rest of the story",
my tape player ran out of tape.
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What we'd like to see happen
We would like to see the Competition Bureau of Canada contact radio stations
to obtain transcripts and tapes from Bowden's on any of the products
discussed on this show. We ask that the medical claims and the fake
university studies used to sell this stuff be exposed as frauds.
We ask all the radio stations is Canada to stop taking advertising and
giving those companies a podium to defraud the public.
AM radio in Canada and the U.S. don't have to broadcast these types of shows. But then again, some of them still broadcast all sorts of trash radio products.
Many stations actually charge money for the privelege of having these
folks on their shows, or they may even revenue share with products that
are featured on their shows.
The health food, or health fraud industry, as I like to refer to it, has
the radio stations in Canada in their hip pockets. It is rare that any
talk show host will confront any of these people. There are a rare few
hosts who eill actually refuse to have them on.
Unfortunately in the Toronto, Kitchener, Windsor markets quack
supporters are a dime a dozen.
We would like for responsible talk show hosts to invite us on their
stations to tell the truth about products that are herbal and natural,
and we will defend our accusations.
So far, only one radio station in Canada has agreed to that, it's CKNW in Vancouver.
It has certainly been my feeling that networks like WIC and Rogers stand
to lose more than their credibility if someone is permanently injured or
dies because they followed the advice of some quack that appeared on a
health fraud show. That would be a shame.
At the present time, we are gathering a subtantial number of complaints
every week through our web site, and we plan to organize a class action
suit in the U.S. and in Canada against the maker, or seller of any
herbal product that injures or kills someone.
The government has refused to take action. It's about time that the
citizens of this country demand that they do.
Go to this page and tell me if this isn't a bunch of crapola?
www.bustplus.com/clinical_study.htm
"With respect to herbal product, Herbal GroBust, please be advised that
preliminary medical studies suggest that the breast enhancement
product is effective. After scrutinizing 108 patients over a
two-year period, the firm has begun to market the product on a
widespread basis in all fifty states.
I have been asked to render an independent opinion of the product
by examining the medical history and biochemistry of several
patients. The results of our investigation suggest that the
representations made on breast enlargement are valid. Claims of a breast
enlargement of one half inch in 45 days has been substantiated. In
several other cases, enlargement of three inches in a nine-month
period were documented. The study suggests that the liquid extract
is faster acting than the oral. However, more extensive data is
needed."
Respectfully yours,
Professor Robert W. Bradford, D.Sc.
Capital University of Integrative Medicine (CUIM)
Washington D.C.
Who is Professor Bradford?
Well it says on their site that he "earned" the following "degrees":
Robert Bradford, ('83) N.M.D., Hahnemann (Academy of Medicine), (85')
D.Sc., Medicina Alternativa University.
He is not a medical doctor, that is perfectly clear.
Is there really such an actual physical building that houses the school
in Washington D.C.?
NO there isn't. they use the school for the deaf's conference center:
http://www.gukcc.com/
"Under arrangements with Gallaudet University's Kellogg Conference
Center, located in Northeast,
Washington, DC (directly off of the New York Avenue corridor into
downtown), CUIM conducts class and
laboratory activities in ultra-modern conference facilities which give
excellent support to the various
university programs. Parking is available on campus."
Did Robert Bradford actually issue the letter on the above web page?
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